Sudarshan Kriya incorporates specific natural rhythms of the breath which harmonize the body, mind and emotions. Getting into the rhythm of our being It takes you to some other world all together, which is a state of pure bliss. It is pure magic!! Sudarshan Kriya may work like mechanical hyperventilation and electronic unilateral VNS which lead to stimulation of thalamic nuclei resulting in quieting of frontal cerebral cortex. The Ujjayi practice makes the practitioner feel calm. The proposed mechanism would be a shift to parasympathetic dominance via vagal stimulation.
AOL is a technology for breathing discovered by Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. Hyperventilation (scientific term for what AOL-ers call Sudarshan Kriya) is beneficial for stress, concentration and a number of diseases.....
Personally AOL has been amazing for me -why I even bunked a final exam in the gung ho enthusiasm to attend a course in Bangalore with Guruji.......Amazing wisdom from him as well and I've loved every AOL satsang I went to - so to that extent it is quite kewl.
But then I have my questions about a few things regarding AOL - I say this of course after having done the basic and advanced programes, interacted with Guruji and done some work for AOL too.....
For one AOL is a lot of hype about the man who discovered the technology......yeah its sure benificial and all, but Guruji as God - the be all and end all is something I find difficult to accept..... I mean yeah even if he's attained supreme conciousness, I still see him as very human......of course a blissed out happy soul but yeah thats about it....
In any other case, of course the scientist is acknowledged and all, but never hyped up so much by the users of the technology.....
Then comes the funda of devotion - it totally works for AOL-ites who take the word of the guru as the final. For someone who believes in questioning, its this very surrender that I find almost impossible.....I really cant imagine myself giving up all my thought and just act on command, even if it comes from an enlightened soul....
There are people around me (a very close friend) who'se dedicated his life to AOL and to spreading the technology......for no financial gain (there is so much of psychological return for him to do it for a living). I totally respect his choice, but its HIS life......to outsource your most critical life decisions (marriage, career) to the founder of just another yogic technology is something I just cant digest too
AOL may be a spiritual organization but its marketing is as good as any modern MNC. Differential pricing (a course in Ahmedabad is priced differently from Mumbai), hardcore viral marketing, register-by-this date kinda stuff is pretty in vogue. Then again if the guru is entering your city, the entire city gets plastered with his smiling pics - free ad space worth millions is just grabbed - on what pretext????
Then again AOL is a very closed source copyright kinda company - not everyone can become a teacher and you cant really tinker around with the technique to adapt it to your own style. The heart of the matter is in the tape which the guru hands out only to teachers he selects......why not democratize conciousness? Why not share it with all?
All said and done a hard core AOL-ite is going to be this closed minded guy who cant think beyond the AOL world-view. He thinks there's just one way to save the world, one answer to every problem and thats sudarshan kriya
And personally I think its just another technology thats helpful - like my bathing soap, my computer or NLP....why go to the end of the world for this one?
Transcendental Meditation Negative Side EffectsPersonally AOL has been amazing for me -why I even bunked a final exam in the gung ho enthusiasm to attend a course in Bangalore with Guruji.......Amazing wisdom from him as well and I've loved every AOL satsang I went to - so to that extent it is quite kewl.
But then I have my questions about a few things regarding AOL - I say this of course after having done the basic and advanced programes, interacted with Guruji and done some work for AOL too.....
For one AOL is a lot of hype about the man who discovered the technology......yeah its sure benificial and all, but Guruji as God - the be all and end all is something I find difficult to accept..... I mean yeah even if he's attained supreme conciousness, I still see him as very human......of course a blissed out happy soul but yeah thats about it....
In any other case, of course the scientist is acknowledged and all, but never hyped up so much by the users of the technology.....
Then comes the funda of devotion - it totally works for AOL-ites who take the word of the guru as the final. For someone who believes in questioning, its this very surrender that I find almost impossible.....I really cant imagine myself giving up all my thought and just act on command, even if it comes from an enlightened soul....
There are people around me (a very close friend) who'se dedicated his life to AOL and to spreading the technology......for no financial gain (there is so much of psychological return for him to do it for a living). I totally respect his choice, but its HIS life......to outsource your most critical life decisions (marriage, career) to the founder of just another yogic technology is something I just cant digest too
AOL may be a spiritual organization but its marketing is as good as any modern MNC. Differential pricing (a course in Ahmedabad is priced differently from Mumbai), hardcore viral marketing, register-by-this date kinda stuff is pretty in vogue. Then again if the guru is entering your city, the entire city gets plastered with his smiling pics - free ad space worth millions is just grabbed - on what pretext????
Then again AOL is a very closed source copyright kinda company - not everyone can become a teacher and you cant really tinker around with the technique to adapt it to your own style. The heart of the matter is in the tape which the guru hands out only to teachers he selects......why not democratize conciousness? Why not share it with all?
All said and done a hard core AOL-ite is going to be this closed minded guy who cant think beyond the AOL world-view. He thinks there's just one way to save the world, one answer to every problem and thats sudarshan kriya
And personally I think its just another technology thats helpful - like my bathing soap, my computer or NLP....why go to the end of the world for this one?
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I was taught a mantra which I was requested to promise to keep secret (a promise I have kept and I have no particular problem with this either), and I was taught to meditate on this mantra by relaxing into it and allowing it to become subtler and subtler.
Definitely TM induces and extremely relaxing state of body and mind, but it induces mental fogginess. From a Buddhist point of view it is basically training in mental sinking which is a state of meditative concentration in which we have hold on the object of meditation but in which our clarity of it is fading. Mental sinking is a form of faulty concentration and yet is the essence of the practice of TM.
The effect of TM on me was to make me increasingly angry and confused. I started shouting at my family more and more. Eventally after a year and a half or so I decided to give it up without knowing quite why – a decision I am very grateful for.
I was taught a mantra which I was requested to promise to keep secret (a promise I have kept and I have no particular problem with this either), and I was taught to meditate on this mantra by relaxing into it and allowing it to become subtler and subtler.
Definitely TM induces and extremely relaxing state of body and mind, but it induces mental fogginess. From a Buddhist point of view it is basically training in mental sinking which is a state of meditative concentration in which we have hold on the object of meditation but in which our clarity of it is fading. Mental sinking is a form of faulty concentration and yet is the essence of the practice of TM.
The effect of TM on me was to make me increasingly angry and confused. I started shouting at my family more and more. Eventally after a year and a half or so I decided to give it up without knowing quite why – a decision I am very grateful for.
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MichaelSeptember 16, 2011 at 12:50 AM
TM had me feeling the same way. I had a very bad time by the end of my time at the university. I'd get headaches on the left side of my head, but I was also turning in to a madman, not remembering things I would say or do. Apocalyptic ego-dissolution. The worst kind. The damnedest kind. I luckily had a few thousand dollars saved up to rest my mind and NOT practice TM before my life started back up (which had been a struggle for me for about a year). Nowadays, sometimes by habit the mantra rolls in my head when I am exhausted and collapsed on the couch from a long day. It soothes me but it also stimulates startling thoughts which I do not remember upon waking from my stupor, as often happens in dreams.
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Truth MirrorFebruary 3, 2013 at 6:13 PM
What disturbed me about TM was how I became slowly addicted to it. I needed it before work, and I craved it as soon as I could on arriving home in the evening.
Once I realized what was going on (a mantra-buzz blissy kind of addiction) I dropped it and never went back. It's just not a balanced technique. And now they say Maharishi wasn't even taught to teach, it's something he just made up.
No wonder so many had so many issues.
MichaelSeptember 16, 2011 at 12:50 AM
TM had me feeling the same way. I had a very bad time by the end of my time at the university. I'd get headaches on the left side of my head, but I was also turning in to a madman, not remembering things I would say or do. Apocalyptic ego-dissolution. The worst kind. The damnedest kind. I luckily had a few thousand dollars saved up to rest my mind and NOT practice TM before my life started back up (which had been a struggle for me for about a year). Nowadays, sometimes by habit the mantra rolls in my head when I am exhausted and collapsed on the couch from a long day. It soothes me but it also stimulates startling thoughts which I do not remember upon waking from my stupor, as often happens in dreams.
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Truth MirrorFebruary 3, 2013 at 6:13 PM
What disturbed me about TM was how I became slowly addicted to it. I needed it before work, and I craved it as soon as I could on arriving home in the evening.
Once I realized what was going on (a mantra-buzz blissy kind of addiction) I dropped it and never went back. It's just not a balanced technique. And now they say Maharishi wasn't even taught to teach, it's something he just made up.
No wonder so many had so many issues.
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Corboy note: a quick Google search revealed many citations linking serotonin excess to heart palpitations.
All that Corboy can suggest is -- this is suggestive, not conclusive. But, food for thought. Especially when looking at commercial gurus whose instructors tell people to keep on meditating despite physical reactions.
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Fen Fen a diet drug which suppressed appetite by boosting serotonin levels was linked to heart valve problems.
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Carcinoid syndrome, a disease that includes excess serotonin often causes heart valve problems.
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Heart Problems Caused By Sudarshan Kriya
MARCH 26, 2011
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Akshata (March 24, 2011 6:17 am)
My sincere appeal to people. If you are having problems due to Sudarshan Kriya please stop immediately. it can worsen your condition if you do not heed the warnings and continue. This practise not suitable for all. It took me almost six months to recover from my three month practise of kriya. I did not have a heart attack as some one was mentioning before. but very strong heart palpitations due to kriya. the doctors warned me that I might even get some of the heart valves damaged.
Be very careful when you practise hotch potch techniques like sudarshan kriya. The teachers themselves do not know how this sudarshan kriya works or do not work. Ask questions to them and do not take their silly answers like guru’s revelation or grace. Otherwise you will suffer like how i suffered.
Heart Problems Caused By Sudarshan Kriya
MARCH 26, 2011
by The Doctor
Akshata (March 24, 2011 6:17 am)
My sincere appeal to people. If you are having problems due to Sudarshan Kriya please stop immediately. it can worsen your condition if you do not heed the warnings and continue. This practise not suitable for all. It took me almost six months to recover from my three month practise of kriya. I did not have a heart attack as some one was mentioning before. but very strong heart palpitations due to kriya. the doctors warned me that I might even get some of the heart valves damaged.
Be very careful when you practise hotch potch techniques like sudarshan kriya. The teachers themselves do not know how this sudarshan kriya works or do not work. Ask questions to them and do not take their silly answers like guru’s revelation or grace. Otherwise you will suffer like how i suffered.
my experience of doing sudarshan kriya of Sri Sri Ravishankar/Art of Living Organisation
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The author attributes his bad side effects to the hyperventilation exercises and blood alkalosis caused by the Kriya Yoga exercises.
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I have been doing it since last 4 years in gaps as after experiencing its harmful effect, leaving it and somehow again after some time doing it either by getting attracted to improve health from it or getting influenced by art of living people constantly influencing you, and again and again i have been experiencing the same dull effects, but not anymore. I have decided to fully dissociate myself from art of living. I think my experience needs to be shared with people to find some out there who is experiencing the same. I would list some of the effects that i have felt after some of the Sudarshan Kriya.
1. don’t feel like doing anything, dont want to work, earn, talk etc
2. unable to think, take decision, unable to concentrate, inattentiveness. cant put your mind on work. unable to focus and be determined. ( i was so focused on working on my website, but after doing long kriya i just don’t feel and care less about it or infact i care less about anything. I can feel the damage in the brain. i dont feel the awareness to feel, focus and do it; something in mind that makes us want to do things is just not felt and i know because it was there before and how because of it i was able to work on a stretch and be motivated to work)
3. don’t feel to respond to others, being unresponsive. feeling dejected; dont care about the things happening around, make you emotionless.
4. dont feel good in mind. Feels like something is missing in the brain.
I have been doing it since last 4 years in gaps as after experiencing its harmful effect, leaving it and somehow again after some time doing it either by getting attracted to improve health from it or getting influenced by art of living people constantly influencing you, and again and again i have been experiencing the same dull effects, but not anymore. I have decided to fully dissociate myself from art of living. I think my experience needs to be shared with people to find some out there who is experiencing the same. I would list some of the effects that i have felt after some of the Sudarshan Kriya.
1. don’t feel like doing anything, dont want to work, earn, talk etc
2. unable to think, take decision, unable to concentrate, inattentiveness. cant put your mind on work. unable to focus and be determined. ( i was so focused on working on my website, but after doing long kriya i just don’t feel and care less about it or infact i care less about anything. I can feel the damage in the brain. i dont feel the awareness to feel, focus and do it; something in mind that makes us want to do things is just not felt and i know because it was there before and how because of it i was able to work on a stretch and be motivated to work)
3. don’t feel to respond to others, being unresponsive. feeling dejected; dont care about the things happening around, make you emotionless.
4. dont feel good in mind. Feels like something is missing in the brain.
But could serotonin excess also have played a role? Research is needed -- objective research, not funded or conducted by anyone with a vested interest
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